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Gen_Rhys_Dallows
Jedi Knight
posted 10-08-13 02:47 PM EDT (US)         
Welp. You know the deal. Pretty much anything Star Wars. The good, bad, and ugly. Mostly bad and ugly, though.



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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-12-13 08:10 PM EDT (US)     61 / 1647       
@ Zaar: I only ask because you hadn't been able to in the past and I wasn't sure if that was finally resolved.

Hell I'll go any EU Luke. I still maintain the Force being far more powerful than biotics.

EDIT: And Starkiller is just as (if not moreso) ridiculous as TCW. So we don't speak of him.

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
"I feel like I just watched Dwayne Johnson beat a small disabled child. Except the disabled child is really an infant clone of Hitler. It's so painful to watch...but so glorious." - Cheapy
"The Rebels only have one rank: traitor." - Eothain

[This message has been edited by Flying Ace (edited 10-12-2013 @ 08:11 PM).]

Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 10-12-13 08:12 PM EDT (US)     62 / 1647       
It again depends on who's writing. But Jack is a special case. Not only is she a superbiotic (something they didn't adequately play up in-game, IMO), but well, she's Jack. "The hanar really liked that moon."

I don't recall having problems with YouTube videos. Are you sure you're thinking of me?

EDIT:
EDIT: And Starkiller is just as (if not moreso) ridiculous as TCW. So we don't speak of him.
Not quite as ridiculous, but pretty close--and that is exactly who LotF Luke is like. In an entire EU of horrible plotlines, LotF has to be about the worst.

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[This message has been edited by Zaarin (edited 10-12-2013 @ 08:13 PM).]

Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-12-13 08:14 PM EDT (US)     63 / 1647       
Hell I'll go any EU Luke. I still maintain the Force being far more powerful than biotics.
Well, yes. Because they just have it be a means for any ridiculous ability they want for the plot.

Biotics have rules. <_<
But Jack is a special case. Not only is she a superbiotic (something they didn't adequately play up in-game, IMO), but well, she's Jack. "The hanar really liked that moon."
Oh, hanar... "Am I the only one that finds it really odd for a hanar to have a mistress?"

No, Kasumi... you are not alone.

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-12-13 08:16 PM EDT (US)     64 / 1647       
Pretty sure it was you. But I've been having trouble with memories lately...

Jack can be as supe'd up as she wants. If we were to disregard people using the Force and Biotics respectively, Force still wins.

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
"I feel like I just watched Dwayne Johnson beat a small disabled child. Except the disabled child is really an infant clone of Hitler. It's so painful to watch...but so glorious." - Cheapy
"The Rebels only have one rank: traitor." - Eothain
Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 10-12-13 08:17 PM EDT (US)     65 / 1647       
This one does not understand your confusion. Hanar must reproduce as well and apparently do not do so asexually like this one would expect of a jellyfish. And this one reminds you that Blasto is a hanar.
Jack can be as supe'd up as she wants. If we were to disregard people using the Force and Biotics respectively, Force still wins.
Probably, but Jack would tear Luke to pieces just by being Jack.

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"But if of ships I now should sing, what ship would come to me,
What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?

"Most forums derails into talking about memes. Here we derail into in-depth discussions about art. I like ours better."--jssf1992

[This message has been edited by Zaarin (edited 10-12-2013 @ 08:18 PM).]

Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-12-13 08:19 PM EDT (US)     66 / 1647       
I'd just like to point out that the game salesman in 2 mentions 'Asari/Hanar porn games'. So no, I find it quite believable for a Hanar to have a mistress
Probably, but Jack would tear Luke to pieces just by being Jack.
If she were to bitch at him, yeah. In a fight, I doubt it.

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
"I feel like I just watched Dwayne Johnson beat a small disabled child. Except the disabled child is really an infant clone of Hitler. It's so painful to watch...but so glorious." - Cheapy
"The Rebels only have one rank: traitor." - Eothain

[This message has been edited by Flying Ace (edited 10-12-2013 @ 08:19 PM).]

Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-12-13 08:21 PM EDT (US)     67 / 1647       
Not quite as ridiculous, but pretty close--and that is exactly who LotF Luke is like. In an entire EU of horrible plotlines, LotF has to be about the worst.
No. Kevin James Anderson exists.
Jack can be as supe'd up as she wants. If we were to disregard people using the Force and Biotics respectively, Force still wins.
Yes. The Force is actual magic. Biotics is physics that allows telekinetic powers. For game purposes, it's like kinetic force powers... but it's not magic.

Just like, canonically, an ISD would eat a Reaper. Hell, a TIE Fighter could eat a Reaper. But Reapers are just so much more awesome. Same with biotics versus the Force. Its limits make it more interesting and a better "magic" than the "uhh... we need a new thing for Luke. The Force will take care of that, right?"

I mean, there's a Force power for putting your enemy into stasis for thousands of years. No artifacts needed, nothing of that sort. Not even a hand sign or something. If it were just telekinesis and lightning and cool stuff... but no, someone cracked open a D&D guidebook and started copying stuff over.

However, to Jack's credit... she has a shotgun that shoots projectiles while Luke has a sword that works against rayguns.

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[This message has been edited by Moff (edited 10-12-2013 @ 08:22 PM).]

Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 10-12-13 08:21 PM EDT (US)     68 / 1647       
Aethyta mentions being with a hanar before being with Benezia, and there's also a hanar on the cover of Fornax.
No. Kevin James Anderson exists.
Oh, you're right. I forget about him.

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What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?

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[This message has been edited by Zaarin (edited 10-12-2013 @ 08:23 PM).]

Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-12-13 08:23 PM EDT (US)     69 / 1647       
Actually, I don't think she mentioned a timeframe on the hanar... so, Liara's half-hanar half-sister could be younger. But she'd be a teenager by asari standards.

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 10-12-13 08:25 PM EDT (US)     70 / 1647       
You're right...she just said she was half-krogan and had even been with a hanar once.

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"But if of ships I now should sing, what ship would come to me,
What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?

"Most forums derails into talking about memes. Here we derail into in-depth discussions about art. I like ours better."--jssf1992
Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-12-13 08:27 PM EDT (US)     71 / 1647       
But Reapers are just so much more awesome.
God-child.

EDIT: And I'm sorry, I guess there can't be variety when dealing with an energy field that surrounds, penetrates and binds an entire galaxy together

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
"I feel like I just watched Dwayne Johnson beat a small disabled child. Except the disabled child is really an infant clone of Hitler. It's so painful to watch...but so glorious." - Cheapy
"The Rebels only have one rank: traitor." - Eothain

[This message has been edited by Flying Ace (edited 10-12-2013 @ 08:28 PM).]

Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 10-12-13 08:28 PM EDT (US)     72 / 1647       
I still don't understand how the last five minutes of a game can really be that traumatic.

EDIT:
EDIT: And I'm sorry, I guess there can't be variety when dealing with an energy field that surrounds, penetrates and binds an entire galaxy together
I personally love magic, but I have to agree with Moff that Star Wars tends to use it as a combination plot hack/deus ex machina.

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"But if of ships I now should sing, what ship would come to me,
What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?

"Most forums derails into talking about memes. Here we derail into in-depth discussions about art. I like ours better."--jssf1992

[This message has been edited by Zaarin (edited 10-12-2013 @ 08:30 PM).]

Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-12-13 08:30 PM EDT (US)     73 / 1647       
EDIT: And I'm sorry, I guess there can't be variety when dealing with an energy field that surrounds, penetrates and binds an entire galaxy together
There can be... but there's variety and then there's "this is our magic bag of plot conveniences."

Look up "Magic A is Magic A" on TVTropes. <_<

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-12-13 08:30 PM EDT (US)     74 / 1647       
Something that built up running into something that anti-climactic. And it's a Deus Ex Machina.

EDIT: Okay, it's times like this I wish we could take turns posting

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
"I feel like I just watched Dwayne Johnson beat a small disabled child. Except the disabled child is really an infant clone of Hitler. It's so painful to watch...but so glorious." - Cheapy
"The Rebels only have one rank: traitor." - Eothain

[This message has been edited by Flying Ace (edited 10-12-2013 @ 08:31 PM).]

Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 10-12-13 08:32 PM EDT (US)     75 / 1647       
Basically they built things up to the point where there were two options: Shepard loses and everyone gets harvested OR deus ex machina. As far as dei ex machina go, I've seen worse, and the first option would have been even more immensely unpopular.

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"But if of ships I now should sing, what ship would come to me,
What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?

"Most forums derails into talking about memes. Here we derail into in-depth discussions about art. I like ours better."--jssf1992
Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-12-13 08:34 PM EDT (US)     76 / 1647       
But the fact that it's basically a mirror of ANOTHER GAME'S ENDING just makes one think they didn't even TRY to come up with something better.

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
"I feel like I just watched Dwayne Johnson beat a small disabled child. Except the disabled child is really an infant clone of Hitler. It's so painful to watch...but so glorious." - Cheapy
"The Rebels only have one rank: traitor." - Eothain
Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-12-13 08:34 PM EDT (US)     77 / 1647       
So unpopular that fans demanded it be included. And Bioware scripted the Refusal ending exactly as it should be.

...Dammit, now I want to take all of those SW RPG ideas and put them back in my Mass Effect/StarCraft/Honorverse/SW hybrid universe. Which means going back to AstroSynthesis.

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"Moff's anime diatribes/photos are infinitely less annoying than legion's communism, so I don't complain." - Azzie, proving that cute girls driving tanks >> Left-wing ideology

[This message has been edited by Moff (edited 10-12-2013 @ 08:34 PM).]

Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 10-12-13 08:34 PM EDT (US)     78 / 1647       
Maybe that's why I'm not upset...because I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-12-13 08:35 PM EDT (US)     79 / 1647       
Look up Deus Ex.

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
"I feel like I just watched Dwayne Johnson beat a small disabled child. Except the disabled child is really an infant clone of Hitler. It's so painful to watch...but so glorious." - Cheapy
"The Rebels only have one rank: traitor." - Eothain
Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-12-13 08:37 PM EDT (US)     80 / 1647       
Hee. Ironic.

I dunno; I see it fitting with the overall theme of ME3 of sacrifice and hard choices. So, I really don't have a huge problem with it. As I've said. Several times. And don't feel like getting into a prolonged discussion in the wrong forum over. <_<

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 10-12-13 08:38 PM EDT (US)     81 / 1647       
Interesting--it does sound exactly like ME3's endings. That does make me disappointed in ME3's writing team. Still, since I haven't played Deus Ex, it doesn't mitigate my enjoyment of ME3.

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What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-12-13 08:42 PM EDT (US)     82 / 1647       
I'm not upset with Bioware for having the Lightside KotOR ending as the end of ME1...

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 10-12-13 08:44 PM EDT (US)     83 / 1647       
Everyone should feel free to plagiarize themselves. Though I don't recall ME1 ending with an award ceremony--I thought it ended with Shepard standing heroically or menacingly against a nebula.

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What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-12-13 08:46 PM EDT (US)     84 / 1647       
The award ceremony was that little flag icon that popped up on the side of the screen.

And, when you think about it, ME2's ending is like the KotOR DS ending. >_>

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 10-12-13 08:50 PM EDT (US)     85 / 1647       
Not really seeing that one, either.

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"But if of ships I now should sing, what ship would come to me,
What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?

"Most forums derails into talking about memes. Here we derail into in-depth discussions about art. I like ours better."--jssf1992
Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-12-13 08:52 PM EDT (US)     86 / 1647       
Epic music, then giant evil fleet of doom swoops in to wreck the galaxy. I didn't say it was a carbon copy. But some similarity, and if we can take points off ME3 for borrowing ending elements... <_<

Besides, ME3 isn't about the last five minutes. It's about running around the new Citadel locations and grinding for money to buy every single thing in the shops while finally getting Grunt and Wrex to fight side-by-side. :p

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 10-12-13 08:59 PM EDT (US)     87 / 1647       
I love the Citadel DLC, but it really is a pace killer.

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"But if of ships I now should sing, what ship would come to me,
What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?

"Most forums derails into talking about memes. Here we derail into in-depth discussions about art. I like ours better."--jssf1992
Gen_Rhys_Dallows
Jedi Knight
posted 10-12-13 09:02 PM EDT (US)     88 / 1647       
Again with this stuff. Thankfully there exists a Star Wars game that puts both Knights of the Old Republic, Mass Effect, and... pretty much every other game ever to shame:

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-12-13 09:17 PM EDT (US)     89 / 1647       
Ha. Scott Bakula...

Oh God, the civilian death screams...

...Jim worked with the Vong on a spice freighter? Thank you, 13-year old British child.

And the piece de resistance...

"WHAT IS HAPPENING EVEN?!"
"Star Wars."

Only... the first is the fans... the second is George. <_<

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"Moff's anime diatribes/photos are infinitely less annoying than legion's communism, so I don't complain." - Azzie, proving that cute girls driving tanks >> Left-wing ideology

[This message has been edited by Moff (edited 10-12-2013 @ 09:24 PM).]

Gen_Rhys_Dallows
Jedi Knight
posted 10-13-13 10:29 AM EDT (US)     90 / 1647       
I dunno, that game made more sense than most SW things I've seen over the past few years.

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