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Gen_Rhys_Dallows
Jedi Knight
posted 10-08-13 02:47 PM EDT (US)         
Welp. You know the deal. Pretty much anything Star Wars. The good, bad, and ugly. Mostly bad and ugly, though.





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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-13-13 10:32 AM EDT (US)     91 / 1655       
Well, I can't argue with that.

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Gen_Rhys_Dallows
Jedi Knight
posted 10-13-13 10:50 AM EDT (US)     92 / 1655       
It was good enough to make me order the official GoldRunner X12TM LEGO kit.

$34.99 well spent.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-13-13 11:00 AM EDT (US)     93 / 1655       
...Is that your sig in the background?

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Gen_Rhys_Dallows
Jedi Knight
posted 10-13-13 11:04 AM EDT (US)     94 / 1655       
It might be.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-13-13 11:38 AM EDT (US)     95 / 1655       
You know what really kills SW, though? The fact that a character can't walk over to the festering jizz-box in the corner of a cantina, punch some buttons, and have this play.

EDIT: WHAT THE ACTUAL F**K?!
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Ewoks_-_Shadows_of_Endor

THAT CAME OUT FOUR DAYS AGO AN EWOKS COMIC WAS RELEASED FOUR DAMNED DAYS AGO

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-18-13 00:01 AM EDT (US)     96 / 1655       
So, a thought occurred to me as I tried to fall asleep... you know how in Force Commander and EaW, the AT-AT barges deploy the walker through a ventral hatch, and then the AT-AT rises up and is ready to go?

So... how do they get the walkers in there... on the Star Destroyer?

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-18-13 01:30 PM EDT (US)     97 / 1655       
Despite how Force Commander makes it look, they probably load them up planetside first. If not...Well the hangar bay on an ISD IS pretty damn big.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-18-13 01:58 PM EDT (US)     98 / 1655       
Yeah, but the whole point is the hangar is too small to fit larger barges that deploy them standing up. So, it's not like they can fly the barge OVER the walker and then drop onto it. But it can't walk into it, either, because it's stored kneeling... so it can't walk.

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Gen_Rhys_Dallows
Jedi Knight
posted 10-18-13 02:23 PM EDT (US)     99 / 1655       
I figure they load them up on the ground, then shuttle them up to the destroyer.

My question is how the hell AT-STs manage to load and fit into Sentinels...

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-18-13 02:26 PM EDT (US)     100 / 1655       
They don't. FC says they go down on the Thetas. And I'm inclined to agree. AT-PTs can fit in a Sentinel, though.

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-18-13 04:02 PM EDT (US)     101 / 1655       
They can probably load up inside a Star Destroyer because AT-ATs can do this:
An AT-AT unloaded its troops by kneeling to three meters above ground level until the boarding ramp could extend outward.

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Farlander
Clone Trooper
posted 10-18-13 04:07 PM EDT (US)     102 / 1655       
So, Star Wars Pinball is apparently the best Star Wars game of the past few years and a genuinely good Pinball game.

Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-18-13 04:08 PM EDT (US)     103 / 1655       
Well, they have to load them on the Star Destroyer, because if they're only carried aboard the transports... maintenance and boarding would be a nightmare. But if they're carried on the ship free... how do they get it into the dropship?

Just because the walker can kneel to drop troops from its own ramps (I think we posted a picture of that a while back) doesn't have anything to do with stuffing it into the dropship somehow. I mean, does the walker squat down and they hover the ship over it and then drop down, clamp up the walker, and close the floor? That would make a good Kenner concept, so it's already halfway to canonization.

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-18-13 04:56 PM EDT (US)     104 / 1655       
Don't see why that can't be how they do it. Now the Titan dropship...that could get interesting.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-18-13 05:06 PM EDT (US)     105 / 1655       
The Titan is big enough to WALK into. The Theta isn't. And... seriously, you can't see why they wouldn't hover at 15 meters above the deck in a large transport, open the ventral hatches, drop the ship down and scoop the walker up like the intro to New Super Mario Brothers?

Again, we're talking about SW, so... you know, it's already halfway to canon. But... it's too comical.

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-18-13 05:29 PM EDT (US)     106 / 1655       
I just think the hangar is big enough for it

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-18-13 05:45 PM EDT (US)     107 / 1655       
I disagree, because if it were... it should logically (again, we're talking SW... I know I've already put a foot in quicksand) carry the Y85 Titans, then. To hover a transport ship over a kneeling walker would require more height than the transport that carries them standing. But according to Doctor Curtis "omg isd beatz enterprise" Saxton... ISDs are too small to carry those transports. Their launch bays can't clear them.

And since he said that in official guidebooks, I want to know how ISDs load Theta barges with walkers.

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-18-13 06:00 PM EDT (US)     108 / 1655       
How would it need more height than the Titan if the AT-AT is already kneeling? It just needs enough room to clear the top of the walker.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-18-13 06:09 PM EDT (US)     109 / 1655       
Right. And I'm pretty sure an AT-AT's carried position is still more than half the normal height. Admittedly, there's no numbers on it; I guess if you could check FC's intro cutscene or animation sequences... but even that would be a less-than-ideal source.

Basically, I'm convinced that the height of the lander plus the height of the knelt walker is more than the standing height of the walker, at least, if not higher than the full-sized transport. Hence my question: if it can't fit the big one... how does the little one load in such a way as to make it not exceed the limit. The easy answer is "front loading ramp"... but then the AT-AT has to walk in and it can't. Unless, perhaps the ramp extends horizontally... the walker steps onto it and lowers, and then the ramp is retracted.

But basically, coming up with a solution that is neither ridiculous nor comical to picture is proving tricky for me. AND IT IS WHY SW CAN BURN AND I WILL REMAKE IT IN A NEW GALAXY WITH AWESOMENESS

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-18-13 06:17 PM EDT (US)     110 / 1655       
I guess if you could check FC's intro cutscene or animation sequences... but even that would be a less-than-ideal source.
Too damn bad. You opened it up



Alright, now that looks like a rather sizable area. Now, picture the walker kneeling down, just from the way things look, the Theta could totally clear that no problem.

But yes, I too would prefer numbers, but the constant belittling of what I grew up watching is kinda pissing me off so I'll take what I can get
AND IT IS WHY SW CAN BURN AND I WILL REMAKE IT IN A NEW GALAXY WITH AWESOMENESS
So not Mass Effect. Got it

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-18-13 06:35 PM EDT (US)     111 / 1655       
Mass Effect > SW

Mac Walters > Tim Zahn

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-18-13 06:48 PM EDT (US)     112 / 1655       
Moff. My respect for you is severely plummeting

And I don't mean lulzy respect, I mean genuine

That dumbass son of a bitch Lucas'd something amazing.

EDIT: I'm sorry. FORMERLY amazing.

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
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[This message has been edited by Flying Ace (edited 10-18-2013 @ 06:48 PM).]

Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-18-13 06:51 PM EDT (US)     113 / 1655       
I'm not serious. Except that ME>SW thing... but that's because I don't think about the last five minutes of 3. Hell, I don't even think about Priority: Earth in general.

I've only read three Tim Zahn, books, too. I should get to his Honorverse stuff. <_<

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 10-18-13 06:52 PM EDT (US)     114 / 1655       
Except those last five minutes render everything you did meaningless. At least it did to me.

Give me Ewoks and Gungans over the Starchild any day.

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
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"The Rebels only have one rank: traitor." - Eothain

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-18-13 06:56 PM EDT (US)     115 / 1655       
And to me, it was the most powerful experience I had in a fictional setting. So... to each their own.

And the idea of the Ewoks would work... if it wasn't there for George Lucas' furry and midget fetishes. I understand the Wookiees had been technological, and he wanted "primitives." I just don't think it was carried off right. And Gungans... well, really, only Jar Jar is the problem. And even he's not as critically disastrous--to me--as the usual fanbase reaction.

And, for what's worth, there are Gungan and Ewok analogs in my sci-fi thing.

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 10-18-13 07:11 PM EDT (US)     116 / 1655       
IMO, Zahn represents pretty much the best of SW--which is kinda sad, because he's really a so-so writer who has good ideas but gets obsessed with his overly-intelligent pet characters like Jade and Thrawn (both of whom were good characters before he Mary Sue'd the crap out of them).

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-18-13 07:14 PM EDT (US)     117 / 1655       
Yes, that.

It's telling that he's a fourth-string EU short-story writer in the Honorverse.

Truthfully, though, I don't know which parts of ME3 Mac wrote. I've never sampled anything he's done outside of it as far as I know. You say he trashed the ending, okay then. I enjoyed it the first time... though I'll confess the emotional impact is much decreased if you know which way you're going at the end and you're not really stuck making a choice. I imagine further playthroughs might allow for an even more critical look at it... but that doesn't change that, the first time I finished ME3, I was moved to tears. And I don't cry at anything; I didn't even cry during all the stock sad parts in Disney movies when I was little. The end of At All Costs in the Honor Harrington series some months before was the closest I'd gotten, and even then that was just a lump in the throat and mild pressure behind the eyes.

So, I don't know how good he is and I can't honestly compare him to Zahn, Weber, Allston, Anderson, McIntyre, Seuss... that's just to tweak your nose. But no amount of analysis or criticism is ever going to change how I reacted that first time finished the Mass Effect series.

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[This message has been edited by Moff (edited 10-18-2013 @ 07:23 PM).]

Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 10-18-13 07:25 PM EDT (US)     118 / 1655       
I cried at the end both times I finished, but I admit I cry fairly easily--I cried both times Mordin and Thane died, I cried the first two times at Virmire (not so much the third--you can only milk me so much )....

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-18-13 07:36 PM EDT (US)     119 / 1655       
I wonder if I could create a moderately-cleaned version of the Plinkett reviews... for those whose tender sensibilities might not appreciate the wife-killing or Nadine subplot or calling Jar Jar a "loathsome c**t."

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jssf1992
Clone Trooper
posted 10-18-13 07:55 PM EDT (US)     120 / 1655       
(both of whom were good characters before he Mary Sue'd the crap out of them).
Mary Sue
I'm surprised to see you use that phrase.

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