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Empire of Darkness
Clone Trooper
(id: Imperial Force)
posted 05-20-13 09:43 AM EDT (US)         
Star Wars Rebels

Interesting turn of events, and quite frankly, I'm glad to see Filoni involved.

Perhaps an older Ahsoka Tano will appear in this series.

I personally hope they try to take a more series tone with the series, but some how the doubt of that eats away more than the Jar Jar Binks episodes of Clone Wars ever could. The Disney ownership is giving us new movies, the partnership with EA will give us new games; the next couple of years will determine whether or not we actually wanted any of it.

Whoa.

[This message has been edited by Empire of Darkness (edited 05-20-2013 @ 09:46 AM).]

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 01-15-16 07:19 PM EDT (US)     811 / 1043       
And it's rather explicitly about his wife. Unless Anakin's a kiddie-fiddler.

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Shifter
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posted 01-15-16 07:26 PM EDT (US)     812 / 1043       
Anakin was first mentioned falling to the dark side in 1977. Anakin was first shown falling to the dark side in 2002 2005. Ahsoka Tano first existed in 2008. Which means that Ahsoka Tano was not considered as a motive for his fall when it was written, either in 1977 or in 2005. While after the fact her exile may have been considered as "additional motivation," it cannot be considered primary or even particularly significant, since his fall was originally written before her story even existed.
Ahsoka is canon and her story and Anakin's story intertwine because she was his padawan. As a result the above statement is irrelevant.


As things are now the question as to whether or not Anakin would've still turned to the dark side had Ahsoka not left the jedi order becomes quite relevant.
And it's rather explicitly about his wife. Unless Anakin's a kiddie-fiddler.
Things would've happened differently had Ahsoka not left the jedi order you know. She would've been present during the events of Revenge Of The Sith and could've been an influence to prevent Anakin from turning to the dark side.

[This message has been edited by Shifter (edited 01-15-2016 @ 07:29 PM).]

Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 01-15-16 08:05 PM EDT (US)     813 / 1043       
As a result the above statement is irrelevant.
Out-of-universe events are completely relevant. Ahsoka may be canon (of all the things that needed to be purged from the EU...), but she didn't exist when Anakin's fall to the dark side was first written. Therefore any influence she had on that event must be considered secondary, since the writers presumed he already had sufficient motivation.
She would've been present during the events of Revenge Of The Sith and could've been an influence to prevent Anakin from turning to the dark side.
If Obi-Wan, Anakin's mentor, wasn't a sufficient influence, why would his padawan of a couple years make a difference? If Padmé's awkwardly-acted, poorly-written "You're going down a path I can't follow!" plea didn't make a difference, whatever whining Ahsoka might have done probably wouldn't either.

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Shifter
Clone Trooper
posted 01-15-16 08:11 PM EDT (US)     814 / 1043       
Well, the trailer for Star Wars Rebels implies that Ahsoka leaving had something to do with Anakin's fall to the dark side.
Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 01-15-16 08:53 PM EDT (US)     815 / 1043       
I'm more annoyed about Maul crawling back.

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Shifter
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posted 01-16-16 01:19 AM EDT (US)     816 / 1043       
I'm more annoyed about Maul crawling back.
He's going to appear in Star Wars Rebels?

I thought he got killed off along with Ventress in the book Dark Disciple...at least that's what I heard.
Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
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posted 01-16-16 08:43 AM EDT (US)     817 / 1043       
Nope, they killed Ventress and let Maul live.

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Shifter
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posted 01-20-16 07:44 PM EDT (US)     818 / 1043       
Nope, they killed Ventress and let Maul live.
They should've killed Maul and had Ventress live.

She is by far the most interesting character of the two.

It was a mistake to kill her off.

Of course I can always hope that she'll make a surprise appearance in Star Wars Rebels which would make Dark Disciple to no longer be canon.

All it would take is for her to appear in it and that would undo her death.

[This message has been edited by Shifter (edited 01-20-2016 @ 07:46 PM).]

Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 01-20-16 08:05 PM EDT (US)     819 / 1043       
Ah, but Dark Disciple is the new Disney canon!

Also, Leia sounds too old.

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Clone Trooper
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posted 01-20-16 08:24 PM EDT (US)     820 / 1043       
They should've killed Maul and had Ventress live.
I actually agree with you on this. Of course, I think resurrecting Maul is the absolute stupidest thing in Star Wars, films, shows, or EU.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 01-20-16 08:31 PM EDT (US)     821 / 1043       
...Mofferences, Moffships, Dark Greetings, Leia robot wedding, clone Boba, Boba lives/dies vacillation, Fandalorians, whaling aesops, a cartoon about the Ewoks...

Also, decent episode... but Leia sounded far too old to be 15. Or 20. She sounded more mid-thirties. <_<

I do like how the Imperial lieutenant came crazy-prepared to deal with Leia's bullshit, though. And also, Leia damn near blew the operation and almost got everyone killed because she had to rub the lieutenant's nose in his impending failure.

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[This message has been edited by Moff (edited 01-20-2016 @ 08:34 PM).]

Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 01-20-16 08:51 PM EDT (US)     822 / 1043       
...Mofferences, Moffships, Dark Greetings, Leia robot wedding, clone Boba, Boba lives/dies vacillation, Fandalorians, whaling aesops, a cartoon about the Ewoks...
I'm going to go ahead and place resurrected Maul ahead of even "mofferences," clone Boba, and Fandalorians.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 01-20-16 09:20 PM EDT (US)     823 / 1043       
But not the Ewoks cartoon?

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 01-20-16 09:50 PM EDT (US)     824 / 1043       
I have the great fortune of never having seen it, but I really can't imagine it's worse than resurrecting the most boring character ever who was also killed in the most thorough manner ever. I might have been slightly more okay with it if he'd come back Darth Sion fashion, but robo-spider Maul? No thanks. :/

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 01-21-16 07:40 AM EDT (US)     825 / 1043       
How about having the Jedi Exile go down like a wimp in the Revan novel, while Revan himself is apotheosized into a Force God? <_<

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 01-21-16 11:10 AM EDT (US)     826 / 1043       
Yes, I recall reading that the Revan novel went out of its way to demolish KotOR2. It can stand side-by-side with Robo-spider Maul.

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Eothain
Clone Trooper
(id: Mad Mike)
posted 01-21-16 05:08 PM EDT (US)     827 / 1043       
Also, Leia sounds too old.
They should've gotten Carrie Fisher to voice her.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 01-22-16 08:58 AM EDT (US)     828 / 1043       
I wonder if Billie Lourd would sound right.

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Shifter
Clone Trooper
posted 01-27-16 07:33 PM EDT (US)     829 / 1043       
Ah, but Dark Disciple is the new Disney canon!
That can change at anytime. Like I stated all it would take is for Ventress to appear in Star Wars Rebels and Dark Disciple would then become a non-canon story.
Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 01-27-16 07:45 PM EDT (US)     830 / 1043       
But why would they contradict themselves and destroy the concept of their own canon?

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Shifter
Clone Trooper
posted 01-27-16 08:00 PM EDT (US)     831 / 1043       
But why would they contradict themselves and destroy the concept of their own canon?
Because perhaps there would be a good story that requires the presence of Ventress' character.
Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 01-27-16 08:04 PM EDT (US)     832 / 1043       
...I think those concepts are mutually contradictory. <_<

And, also, completely destroys the concept of storyline integrity. A storyline they still have a lot of money to make back from.

Does that I felt the episode was too short mean I liked it, or they're writing out these really good ideas... then cramming in the resolution in the five minutes after the last commercial break?

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[This message has been edited by Moff (edited 01-27-2016 @ 09:07 PM).]

Eothain
Clone Trooper
(id: Mad Mike)
posted 01-28-16 04:22 PM EDT (US)     833 / 1043       
It's like when Darth Maul returned in TCW and TPM became non-canon.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 01-29-16 11:16 AM EDT (US)     834 / 1043       
Thrawn might be in Season Three. If he is... Dallows made me realize it would be the deathknell of the good aspects of the character.

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Empress Fumiko
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posted 01-29-16 11:17 PM EDT (US)     835 / 1043       
Rebels will ruin Thrawn.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
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posted 01-30-16 06:00 AM EDT (US)     836 / 1043       
...Has CarDiv5 supplanted CarDiv1, Admiral? Is that Shokaku-san I see?

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Empress Fumiko
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posted 01-30-16 09:55 AM EDT (US)     837 / 1043       
CarDiv5 has more... Personality? than CarDiv1, which is just "sempai and cold girl". CarDiv5 has the action/cool dynamic going on, sort of.

But back on topic now. If Thrawn does appear, and as a main antagonist, this will probably a bigger destruction to the EU Legends than Sheev Palpatine. I would much prefer Thrawn to be a background commanding officer who gets underlings to deal with the main characters. When the underlings hopelessly fail because it's Rebels, "at least" Thrawn can still be a Creed-level strategic genius, and it's the underlings' fault for screwing things up.

IMO the best course of action they can take to keep Thrawn's genius and Rebels' ongoing, early TCW-like "heroes must win" stance is if they make Thrawn a hypercompetent threat who does manage to screw over the Rebels in a couple of episodes, before handing the case over to someone (Like Kallus, who loses two AT-ATs UGH) who then screws it up at the last moment/falls victim to a deus ex machina. Worst case scenario Thrawn becomes another Tarkin and gets defeated by spray-painted TIE fighter (disgusting).

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
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posted 01-31-16 04:01 PM EDT (US)     838 / 1043       
Thrawn might be in Season Three. If he is... Dallows made me realize it would be the deathknell of the good aspects of the character.
I thought Outbound Flight already did that.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 01-31-16 04:37 PM EDT (US)     839 / 1043       
Heh. I was just saying something about that in OD. Sassenach was pondering maybe trying the EU. You know, via a library so he doesn't have to spend money... but with the downside is that it means a human being has to see you checking out an SW book.

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Clone Trooper
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posted 01-31-16 04:49 PM EDT (US)     840 / 1043       
I actually own no SW books aside from roleplaying books and the Jedi vs. Sith book, which frankly I bought for the pretty pictures (the artwork in that book is really nice...).

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