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Empire of Darkness
Clone Trooper
(id: Imperial Force)
posted 05-20-13 09:43 AM EDT (US)         
Star Wars Rebels

Interesting turn of events, and quite frankly, I'm glad to see Filoni involved.

Perhaps an older Ahsoka Tano will appear in this series.

I personally hope they try to take a more series tone with the series, but some how the doubt of that eats away more than the Jar Jar Binks episodes of Clone Wars ever could. The Disney ownership is giving us new movies, the partnership with EA will give us new games; the next couple of years will determine whether or not we actually wanted any of it.

Whoa.

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 07-21-15 06:28 PM EDT (US)     751 / 1043       
Creepy Probe Droid Lady's features--nose and eyes particularly--look smaller and the mouth is a different shape, the facial tattoos are gone, but the skin is an almost identical shade taking lighting into account. Whether the subject is Bariss Offee or not, I'd say it's safe to say she's Mirialan (if they're still canon). She does resemble Bariss, though, aside from the mouth and nose, and those could be stylistic changes.

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Kongou Dess
Moff
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posted 07-21-15 07:18 PM EDT (US)     752 / 1043       
Her hat is silly.

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Shifter
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posted 07-22-15 05:07 PM EDT (US)     753 / 1043       
Creepy Probe Droid Lady's features--nose and eyes particularly--look smaller and the mouth is a different shape, the facial tattoos are gone, but the skin is an almost identical shade taking lighting into account. Whether the subject is Bariss Offee or not, I'd say it's safe to say she's Mirialan (if they're still canon). She does resemble Bariss, though, aside from the mouth and nose, and those could be stylistic changes.
Ahsoka looks a little different from how she looked in the Clone Wars as well, and I think Bariss could be an additional personal conflict character for her along with Vader due to what Bariss did to her during the Clone Wars...my guess...it's Bariss.

After all her fate is still open from the Clone Wars...and that needs to be resolved.
Her hat is silly.
Kinda reminds me of a line from a certain movie...

I'll get you my pretty...and your little dog too.

[This message has been edited by Shifter (edited 07-22-2015 @ 05:09 PM).]

Kongou Dess
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 07-22-15 05:46 PM EDT (US)     754 / 1043       
Well, didn't she go to trial for a capital offense? Ahsoka's trial was a capital crimes case... <_<

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Shifter
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posted 07-22-15 05:55 PM EDT (US)     755 / 1043       
Well, didn't she go to trial for a capital offense? Ahsoka's trial was a capital crimes case... <_<
They didn't show a trial for Bariss.

She likely spent sometime in prison, but never had a trial. After Order 66 Palpatine probably made her one his Inquistors (obviously) due to her attitude against the jedi.

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 07-22-15 06:33 PM EDT (US)     756 / 1043       
The Jedi, like Starfleet, have the questionable moral imperative that it's kinder to lock someone up for eternity rather than kill them, unless you really don't like them.

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Kongou Dess
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 07-22-15 07:05 PM EDT (US)     757 / 1043       
I'm just saying... Ahsoka was charged with murder and treason. She was cleared, and Barriss was found to be the culprit. So... if we went to all of the nonsense to put Ahsoka on trial,, did Tarkin figure one Jedi in the noose is as good as another?

Or, you know, did we only put Ahsoka on trial because plot. And if so, what is the in-universe justification?

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Shifter
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posted 07-23-15 03:40 AM EDT (US)     758 / 1043       
I'm just saying... Ahsoka was charged with murder and treason. She was cleared, and Barriss was found to be the culprit. So... if we went to all of the nonsense to put Ahsoka on trial,, did Tarkin figure one Jedi in the noose is as good as another?

Or, you know, did we only put Ahsoka on trial because plot. And if so, what is the in-universe justification?
Moff, you a forgetting the most important thing when it comes to Bariss...she is exactly the kind of person (going by her retconned canon via The Clone Wars series) that Palpatine would want working for him.

Tarkin already works for him...do you see now how easy it is for Bariss to avoid a trial and etc?

Also...let's take an example from Dark Disciple when it comes to how jedi relate to one of their own.

After all Vos does in that story against them they simply forgive him at the end of it and take him back among them.

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Kongou Dess
Moff
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posted 07-23-15 08:15 AM EDT (US)     759 / 1043       
Which is a mind-boggling stupid, lazy, idiotic, and ridiculous thing to happen.

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ISOmetric
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posted 07-23-15 12:01 PM EDT (US)     760 / 1043       
But Shifter likes those kind of things. Remember our previous... I hesitate to call it discussion but oh well... about Ventress being the inquisitor: everyone agreed that Ventress could conceivably be the inquisitor but it would be a "mind-boggling stupid, lazy, idiotic, and ridiculous thing to happen" but it could happen so yah boo sucks to you innit.

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Shifter
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posted 07-23-15 06:02 PM EDT (US)     761 / 1043       
Which is a mind-boggling stupid, lazy, idiotic, and ridiculous thing to happen.
Why is such a thing a mind-boggling stupid, lazy, idiotic, and ridiculous thing to happen when Palpatine would likely do exactly what I stated?

It's within Palpatine's character to do exactly as I stated therefore it isn't a mind-boggling stupid, lazy, idiotic, and ridiculous thing to happen.
But Shifter likes those kind of things. Remember our previous... I hesitate to call it discussion but oh well... about Ventress being the inquisitor: everyone agreed that Ventress could conceivably be the inquisitor but it would be a "mind-boggling stupid, lazy, idiotic, and ridiculous thing to happen" but it could happen so yah boo sucks to you innit.
Hey! There is nothing wrong with being a thinker and having a little fun trying to speculate what might happen in regards to these characters.

And speaking of that I have more...

How many of you think that Vader is going to end up killing Ahsoka in a future episode of Star Wars Rebels?

Because I don't think he is going to end up doing that and believe it or not it's in his character not to since there is still good in him.

Let's see if that baits any of you to ask me how that could possibly be the case knowing that all of you likely believe Vader is going to kill her.

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 07-23-15 06:08 PM EDT (US)     762 / 1043       
Let's see if that baits any of you to ask me
Bait is usually more effective if you don't advertise that you're baiting.

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Shifter
Clone Trooper
posted 07-23-15 06:22 PM EDT (US)     763 / 1043       
Bait is usually more effective if you don't advertise that you're baiting.
I believe in giving my prey a fair warning by revealing that the bait is bait.

Of course...eventually if no one asks you all know that I'm going to just tell you what I think anyway.

I just wanted to see if anyone is interested in what I have to say beforehand that's all.

[This message has been edited by Shifter (edited 07-23-2015 @ 06:24 PM).]

Shifter
Clone Trooper
posted 07-24-15 03:46 AM EDT (US)     764 / 1043       
Okay...time to do what I said I would do.

I don't believe Vader will kill Ahsoka because the fact is that there is still good in him and that has to be proven to be so.

Now, a true act of evil is done willingly and directly by the person who does it. If Vader stands by and allows someone else to kill Ahsoka (such as Palpatine like he was doing to Luke in Return Of The Jedi) he is not willingly and directly doing the act of killing himself.

It reveals the good in him by not doing such a thing.

In general a being that is 100% good would do exactly the same thing because such a being wouldn't be able to act violently even to save someone because violence goes against the nature of good.

Of course that is where the double edge sword of the matter comes in because doing nothing in a situation like that can be considered an act of evil as well.

In other words good taken to its extreme natural nature can cause one to do something evil.

It would be Vader's bond with Ahsoka that would cause him to not kill her himself revealing the good that is still in him, but still showing his evil by doing nothing to save her because his bond with Ahsoka isn't strong enough to overcome the dark side in order to do the act of saving her, unlike the case when it came to Luke.

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Kongou Dess
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 07-24-15 11:00 AM EDT (US)     765 / 1043       
New episodes start in the Fall. ^_^

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Shifter
Clone Trooper
posted 07-24-15 04:26 PM EDT (US)     766 / 1043       
New episodes start in the Fall. ^_^
That's cool, but unfortunately I can't watch them. I don't have Disney XD.

I'll have to get the details about the episodes online after the show airs.

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Kongou Dess
Moff
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posted 07-24-15 05:00 PM EDT (US)     767 / 1043       
DailyMotion might carry them.

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Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 08-29-15 12:04 PM EDT (US)     768 / 1043       
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJMCvpHB29g&feature=youtu.be

God. Just the sound of their voice makes me want to hate everything.

WAIT! Ahsoka won't be permanent cast! THE SHOW IS SAAAAAAAAAAAAVED!

But there are B-Wings before Admiral Ackbar invented them. BOOOOOOOOOOOO!

"Darn! I was looking forward to [Ahsoka] being in it constantly." Well, we know what Shifter sounds like now. You have a weird accent. <_<

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Gen_Rhys_Dallows
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posted 08-29-15 02:41 PM EDT (US)     769 / 1043       
But there are B-Wings before Admiral Ackbar invented them.
This doesn't bother me too much. I thought the idea of the small ill-equipped Rebels having the capacity to design and mass produce new fighters, tanks, capital ships, etc was kinda stupid. I figured they'd just use whatever ancient trash they could get running. Which I think may have been the original plan, before the EU came in to turn every vaguely loose thread into dollars.

See, the Nebulon-B. It looks like 30 different ships just haphazardly mashed together into something that can kinda fly. Doesn't at all look like a warship that'd come rolling off an assembly line - especially an Imperial one.

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Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 08-29-15 02:57 PM EDT (US)     770 / 1043       
I was under the impression that the Nebulon-B was a civilian frigate (albeit one used by the Empire) that was retrofitted for combat by the Alliance.

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Kongou Dess
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 08-29-15 03:09 PM EDT (US)     771 / 1043       
Nah, I'm okay with the idea of the Rebels hijacking Imperial ships. I did read once that the X-Wing is supposed to be an antiquated type, instead of the bleeding edge in space superiority as of 1 BBY... but that was clearly all retconned away. Of course, maybe we'll see ARC-170s shopped into Yavin now. <_<

Then again, equipment life in SW is interesting too. I can believe everything from the Clone Wars era was replaced by the Galactic Civil War, especially given the Empire's military budget and political motives. Even the idea that the Rebels would sparingly use old Republic gear simply for want of parts and the like... twenty years is a long time.

But then, the Empire uses ISDs for sixty years. And TIE Fighters for almost as long. The Rebels/New Republic used the X-Wing for near-on forty, or maybe longer if you're willing to count the upgraded variants that were invented so the cover artists could keep slapping X-Wing fighters on the cover while fighting the Vong, Killiks, Jacen Solo, and Abeloth...

I mean, granted, the F-4 Phantom was built for 23 years and served, with the US, for another 15 years after the last one rolled off the production lines. More modern fighters would be the F-14 (built for 22 years, served 32), the F-15 (still in production, started in 1972... and scheduled to run to 2019), the F-16 (still going; in production since '74 and in service since '78, with no apparent plans to quit) and the F-18, which has a similar timeline to the 16. So maybe there's something to it, but...

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posted 09-06-15 00:18 AM EDT (US)     772 / 1043       
"Darn! I was looking forward to [Ahsoka] being in it constantly." Well, we know what Shifter sounds like now. You have a weird accent. <_<
Don't be starting trouble that you can't or won't want to start.

Now...a thought to ponder...

In Return Of The Jedi everyone assumes that it is referring to Luke being that jedi, but what if it was actually referring to Anakin returning to the light side and once again becoming a jedi as a result?

Luke was never a jedi prior to Return Of The Jedi so he never left in order to have to return, but Anakin did.
Kongou Dess
Moff
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posted 09-06-15 10:21 AM EDT (US)     773 / 1043       
Because Luke became a Jedi. "Not the last of the old, but the first of the new." Thus, after the long night, the Jedi returned.

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Shifter
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posted 09-06-15 12:44 PM EDT (US)     774 / 1043       
Because Luke became a Jedi. "Not the last of the old, but the first of the new." Thus, after the long night, the Jedi returned.
Well...I suppose there's that, but you can also include what I said as well...it fits too.
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Moff
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posted 09-06-15 05:29 PM EDT (US)     775 / 1043       
I was under the impression that the Nebulon-B was a civilian frigate (albeit one used by the Empire) that was retrofitted for combat by the Alliance.
No, it was an Imperial-built escort ship for escorting freighter convoys. It was never a civilian frigate. Frigates are armed.

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Moff
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posted 10-15-15 09:36 PM EDT (US)     776 / 1043       
Sabine no longer looks as Rainbow Dash-ish. Now she's just blue. They changed the theme song too, and I dunno if it was just Eckstein's delivery or the writing, but her lines were bad.

The same cannot be said for the spat between Hera and Chopper. Talented acting; who would have thought it would make SW good? Also, the tactical droid has an unfamiliar design. New model?

Rex's 501st is now the 501st Clone Battalion... not a legion. Stupid. And Gregor lost his mind and the mass driver gun is now a giant fishing pole. What a waste of a 155mm cannon.

ROFL THE PROBOTS TYPE NOW

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posted 10-16-15 03:29 AM EDT (US)     777 / 1043       
How else would a robot interact with a computer?

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posted 10-16-15 08:45 PM EDT (US)     778 / 1043       
Bluetooth.

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
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Moff
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posted 10-16-15 08:47 PM EDT (US)     779 / 1043       
Do you want droids to come equipped with glowing blue incisors? Because that's how you get that. <_<

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posted 10-17-15 01:28 PM EDT (US)     780 / 1043       
If it starts chasing some rebels Pac-Man style, that'd be awesome.

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