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Empire of Darkness
Clone Trooper
(id: Imperial Force)
posted 05-20-13 09:43 AM EDT (US)         
Star Wars Rebels

Interesting turn of events, and quite frankly, I'm glad to see Filoni involved.

Perhaps an older Ahsoka Tano will appear in this series.

I personally hope they try to take a more series tone with the series, but some how the doubt of that eats away more than the Jar Jar Binks episodes of Clone Wars ever could. The Disney ownership is giving us new movies, the partnership with EA will give us new games; the next couple of years will determine whether or not we actually wanted any of it.

Whoa.

[This message has been edited by Empire of Darkness (edited 05-20-2013 @ 09:46 AM).]

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Admiral Fyyar
Clone Trooper
posted 04-27-15 05:41 PM EDT (US)     691 / 1043       
We have a Danish phrase that says that it's usually far worse to threaten to stay than to threaten to leave.

Dunno why that felt relevant.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 04-27-15 05:49 PM EDT (US)     692 / 1043       
...Why, Fyyarby... Fyaryayayrrrby... FURBY. FURBY WHY U DO DIS

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jssf1992
Clone Trooper
posted 04-27-15 07:09 PM EDT (US)     693 / 1043       
Because banning you leads to things getting boring.
My occasional emotional break isn't enough?
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Shifter
Clone Trooper
posted 04-28-15 03:47 AM EDT (US)     694 / 1043       
How about that character in the trailer that appears to be very Ventress like?

What's up with her?
Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 04-28-15 06:45 AM EDT (US)     695 / 1043       
That was one of the crime boss guys from the last season of TCW.

EDIT:
AW HELL NO
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Satine's_Lament

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 04-28-15 11:32 AM EDT (US)     696 / 1043       
Erm, didn't that blaster already have a perfectly normal sounding name?

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Gen_Rhys_Dallows
Jedi Knight
posted 04-28-15 11:38 AM EDT (US)     697 / 1043       
I'm gonna submit a ticket to command to have the M16 renamed after Gandhi.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 04-28-15 12:10 PM EDT (US)     698 / 1043       
"Gandhi's Tears"? <_<

Yes, it used to be the Defender sporting blaster.

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 04-28-15 12:13 PM EDT (US)     699 / 1043       
I'm gonna submit a ticket to command to have the M16 renamed after Gandhi.
No, there needs to be a nuke named after Gandhi; everyone knows that Gandhi loves his nukes. He taunted me into declaring war on him once, Franco-Prussian War style.

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Clone Trooper
posted 04-28-15 01:41 PM EDT (US)     700 / 1043       
How about that character in the trailer that appears to be very Ventress like?

What's up with her?
Funny you should mention her, it's not like we've already discussed her or anything...

I think it's far more likely that the first inquisitor and the two others shown in the trailer are Palpatine's secret apprentices, just as Maul was. They have similar lightsabres and fighting styles (with some variation) from the brief glimpses we've seen so it makes sense that they may well have been trained at the same time as Maul.
I'm just pointing out the similar things between the character in the trailer and Ventress which makes me believe that she is Ventress.

Can anyone deny the things that are similar to Ventress that the character has?
First of all that wasn't all you were pointing out - I initially agreed with you that it could be Ventress but stressed that the story would have to take some massive leaps in some very questionable directions... at which point you supported those massive leaps by suggesting them yourself; i.e. Ventress is a force user more powerful than Palpatine himself and would seek work from the only people in the galaxy who truly know what she is worth and that she is a massive danger to them. So no, that's not all you pointed out, is it? If it were we wouldn't have had this massive discussion, would we?

Secondly, I've watched the trailer again and actually there aren't all that many similarities:

She's female: granted, you can have that one.
She's a force user (or at least trained in lightsabre combat): yep, that one too.
She has the same physique: not buying that one. Almost all humaniod females in TCW and Rebels have the same physique.
She has a very physical combat style: again, if you look back at TCW, pretty much every character does, so its not exactly a defining characteristic.

Now let's look at a few differences:

The change in lightsabre use: going from two sabres to one double sabre is a big leap - sure, it could be learned but why would Ventress put herself at a disadvantage like that? We've already established that it wouldn't help her hide her identity.
The droids: this character had some small 'pet-like' droids that fought for her, leading me to belive that this particular apprentice is quite tech-minded - Ventress showed no such affinity towards using droids... ever, AFAIK.
She's too short: this might be a stretch because it's difficult to tell, but the character appears to be a similar height to Ezra when she is fighting him. Ventress was pretty considerably taller: a quick Wookiepedia checkup tells me that Ezra is 1.65m vs Ventress' 1.8m - that's quite a big difference, which isn't represented on-screen (at least it doesn't appear to be).
The outfit: Ventress always favoured the more... revealing outfits, and this one is not that. She also liked to taunt her foes (and remember that scene where she kissed a clone as she killed him?) and the helmet hides her annoying sneer.

You can pick at my arguments all you like but I've already established (and you have not disputed) that for the story to make any sense, it is very unlikely to be Ventress. And if it is, the story has taken some ridiculous turns and it's a blatant fan service for you and your ilk, who want their beloved to appear at any given moment no matter how dumb the situation because they are that infatuated with the character.

And as I've already conceded, if the show makers decide to do that then of course we will have to accept it - but fiction or not, it doesn't stop it being stupid. Can you imagine if every plot twist, no matter how bizarre, was justified with, "Well duh, it's only fiction, jeez..." Would that not be frustrating?

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 04-28-15 02:32 PM EDT (US)     701 / 1043       
You had to bring up that awful "kiss-kill" in a supposedly PG cartoon. >_<

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Clone Trooper
posted 04-28-15 02:46 PM EDT (US)     702 / 1043       
It was valid! She can't do that with a helmet!

It's a long road that has no turning - It's never too late to mend.
The darkest hour is before the dawn, and even this war must end.


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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 04-28-15 04:16 PM EDT (US)     703 / 1043       
Yes, but it's also a memory best repressed in the deepest darkest corner of the mind.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 04-29-15 06:47 AM EDT (US)     704 / 1043       

Bwahahahaha.

EDIT:
It was valid! She can't do that with a helmet!
I dunno. FemShep is perfectly able to plant one on a romanced Liara on Illium... despite wearing a breather helmet.

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[This message has been edited by Moff (edited 04-29-2015 @ 11:30 AM).]

Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 04-29-15 01:21 PM EDT (US)     705 / 1043       
I always get a little nervous when my Cain is clipping through something. Pretty sure that's bad for a nuke strapped to your back

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 04-29-15 03:21 PM EDT (US)     706 / 1043       
Pretty sure that's bad for a nuke strapped to your back
But the game emphasizes repeatedly that despite the mushroom cloud and the nuke symbol, the Cain is not a nuke.

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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 04-29-15 03:30 PM EDT (US)     707 / 1043       
It's not. It's a slug of high explosive material accelerated to a kinetic energy of 312.5 kJ.

Bad FA; read your lore.

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 04-29-15 06:26 PM EDT (US)     708 / 1043       
The lore can say whatever the hell it wants. Bitch is a nuke!

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 04-29-15 06:38 PM EDT (US)     709 / 1043       
...And I suppose Ventress is an antihero? <_<

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 04-29-15 07:13 PM EDT (US)     710 / 1043       
More like anti good writing. >_>

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
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Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 04-29-15 07:24 PM EDT (US)     711 / 1043       
...Point.

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Shifter
Clone Trooper
posted 04-30-15 03:45 AM EDT (US)     712 / 1043       
...And I suppose Ventress is an antihero? <_<
Yes...her character is an anti-hero now.

Whether she's the main character of a story or not she now carries the traits of an anti-hero...and for the record that's always what I meant in my past discussions on the subject.

It is you and others that misunderstood what I meant...and that's your fault not mine.

[This message has been edited by Shifter (edited 04-30-2015 @ 03:46 AM).]

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Clone Trooper
posted 04-30-15 05:36 AM EDT (US)     713 / 1043       
Yes...her character is an anti-hero now.

Whether she's the main character of a story or not she now carries the traits of an anti-hero...and for the record that's always what I meant in my past discussions on the subject.
Your misinterpretation of the concept aside, to quote yourself quoting someone else... you assume too much.

Ventress may not have been a 'standard' villain by the end of TCW (she wasn't on the typical 'evil' side, but was still just in it for her own gain) but even if by some drastic step in the story she is that female shown in the trailer, she looks like she's pretty villainous to me - standing side by side with that brute of a guy, red lightsabre, fighting the good guys... that's about as villainous as it gets.

It's a long road that has no turning - It's never too late to mend.
The darkest hour is before the dawn, and even this war must end.


Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster - Widely considered the galaxy's best drink, the effects of which are like having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped around a large gold brick.

~\\*.. The Real McCoy ..*//~
Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 04-30-15 06:09 AM EDT (US)     714 / 1043       
Iso, Iso... don't feed the banshee.

EDIT:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hunter_(clone_commando)

Clone Rambo. Eeeyup.

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 04-30-15 10:37 AM EDT (US)     715 / 1043       
It is you and others that misunderstood what I meant...and that's your fault not mine.
I was waiting for that line to show up again.

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 04-30-15 01:41 PM EDT (US)     716 / 1043       
Iso, Iso... don't feed the banshee.
Yeah, you take down its barrier and then Tech Armor.

Also, the banshee only shuts up if you ignore it >_>

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
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"The Rebels only have one rank: traitor." - Eothain
Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 04-30-15 01:44 PM EDT (US)     717 / 1043       
Yes. Do that.

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Flying Ace
Clone Trooper
(id: Lord Vader672)
posted 04-30-15 01:47 PM EDT (US)     718 / 1043       
Which one?

What was YOUR ME3 ending: Merge with Helios, Illuminati, or Tracer Tong?
"I feel like I just watched Dwayne Johnson beat a small disabled child. Except the disabled child is really an infant clone of Hitler. It's so painful to watch...but so glorious." - Cheapy
"The Rebels only have one rank: traitor." - Eothain
Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 04-30-15 02:34 PM EDT (US)     719 / 1043       
*mashes 1* COME ON TECH ARMOR

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Shifter
Clone Trooper
posted 04-30-15 06:03 PM EDT (US)     720 / 1043       
Your misinterpretation of the concept aside, to quote yourself quoting someone else... you assume too much.

Ventress may not have been a 'standard' villain by the end of TCW (she wasn't on the typical 'evil' side, but was still just in it for her own gain) but even if by some drastic step in the story she is that female shown in the trailer, she looks like she's pretty villainous to me - standing side by side with that brute of a guy, red lightsabre, fighting the good guys... that's about as villainous as it gets.
So true...if that was Ventress then she is a villain again...unless of course looks are deceiving.

What if Ventress is actually pretending to serve Palpatine and Vader for some unknown purpose.

If she makes some kind of deal with them or offers to serve the Empire she could appear to be an asset to them and that would prevent them from wanting to kill her which in turn saves her butt against them...at least until she decides to betray them for her own reasons.


Also...what's with these red lines under some of the words while typing out posts lately?

If it's some kind of spell checking thing then it needs adjusting because I do believe I have the spelling correct.

[This message has been edited by Shifter (edited 04-30-2015 @ 06:07 PM).]

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