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Tauntaun
Clone Trooper
posted 10-25-16 05:59 PM EDT (US)         

Thoughts?

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Emissary of the Prophets
Clone Trooper
(id: Admiral Zaarin)
posted 10-25-16 06:07 PM EDT (US)     1 / 11       
Isn't that just snippets of the cutscenes from Jedi Knight? I still think the actor who played Kyle Katarn looks and sounds like Jonathan Frakes. I would have preferred making Katarn canon to "Who Got the Death Star Plans to the Rebels Take #1824338," but...

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Tauntaun
Clone Trooper
posted 10-25-16 06:59 PM EDT (US)     2 / 11       
Isn't that just snippets of the cutscenes from Jedi Knight?
Exactly- these are just bits of the cutscenes arranged with the same music and structure as the Rogue One trailer.
I would have preferred making Katarn canon to "Who Got the Death Star Plans to the Rebels Take #1824338," but...
The decision to copy Kyle's tale without bringing him back to canon still baffles me. A mock trailer using nearly 20-year old footage still looks good, and arguably more interesting than Rogue One itself - just imagine how a Kyle movie with a fat budget and a decent writer would be!
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Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-25-16 07:13 PM EDT (US)     3 / 11       
The decision to copy Kyle's tale without bringing him back to canon still baffles me. A mock trailer using nearly 20-year old footage still looks good, and arguably more interesting than Rogue One itself - just imagine how a Kyle movie with a fat budget and a decent writer would be!
It's just business. It's one thing to reference a planet, or events, or an offscreen minor character... but just look at the reaction to bringing back Thrawn. You had skeptical EU fans, who thought their nostalgia was being milked; you had angry PT fanboys, who thought it was lousy pandering to the EU fans; people going, "What's a Thron"? and getting flamed... I mean, hell, the Thrawn books are almost as old as me.

Disney is going to "take inspiration" from the EU. Thrawn was an attempt at an olive branch and an exception to the rule. But there's also a business angle: Dark Forces' story was a massive collaborative effort. It also had numerous spinoffs. What stays canon? What counts? How will fans of the original be irritated by cherry-picking parts of their favorite character (as we're seeing with Thrawn)? And probably--and sadly--most importantly, who will have to be paid royalties?

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Gen_Rhys_Dallows
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posted 10-25-16 08:24 PM EDT (US)     4 / 11       
Probably because having Kyle stroll into a low-security base, shoot like six dudes, and casually stuff the plans in his pocket wouldn't make for a very interesting movie.

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Moff
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posted 10-25-16 08:33 PM EDT (US)     5 / 11       
There's that, too.

Also, they're saying there were Dark Troopers several years before Yavin instead of several months after.

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posted 10-25-16 08:35 PM EDT (US)     6 / 11       
And probably--and sadly--most importantly, who will have to be paid royalties?
On the plus side, that problem got us Kira Nerys (that, and the fact that Michelle Forbes wasn't interested in a long-term commitment); on the down side, that problem got us Tom Paris. That problem also got us Bastilla Shan instead of Bastilla Sunrider, but that's just a name change. (Which is really weird when you consider just how frequently KotOR references TotJ, and even explicitly names Nomi Sunrider, Ulic Qel-Droma, Arca Jeth, Thon, Crado, Sylvn, Exar Kun, Naga Saddow, Ludo Kressh, Freedon Nadd, Marka Ragnos, etc.)
Probably because having Kyle stroll into a a low-security base, shoot like six dudes, and casually stuff the plans in his pocket wouldn't make for a very interesting movie.
Just from the trailers I predict Rogue One will be rife with melodrama, which could easily extend a stroll through a low-security base into an hour and a half.

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Moff
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posted 10-29-16 12:29 PM EDT (US)     7 / 11       
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperius_Unitada_ober_Totallex

Didney pls

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Flying Ace
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posted 10-29-16 03:26 PM EDT (US)     8 / 11       
...What the hell is that?

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Kousoku Senkan Moffgou
Moff
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posted 10-29-16 03:53 PM EDT (US)     9 / 11       
Someone mixing Latin and German to sound sophisticated. And failing miserably. Like, "Booten wooten lanlock vootem"-level failure.

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Empress Fumiko
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posted 10-29-16 06:13 PM EDT (US)     10 / 11       


What makes me laugh is the seriouz biznezz "canon" planted right over this 15-minute-photoshopped nonsense. Way to go, Disney, wiping the EU and then having this nonsense canon. Now those are the true Dark Forces.

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Kousoku Senkan Moffgou
Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 10-29-16 06:26 PM EDT (US)     11 / 11       
*twitch* Did... somevun... gesagt... Panzer?!



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